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How would an LLA court rule in this situation? Gaming out an in-game legal scenario

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lets adapt lets adapt's picture
How would an LLA court rule in this situation? Gaming out an in-game legal scenario
I'm trying to flesh out homebrew introductory scenarios by playing up simple ethical situations that should have existing cases on the books. Right now I'm focusing on the LLA but I suspect these laws would be the same for all of the inner system. Situation: Person A trades an alpha fork of their self to Person B as payment for some good or service. Person A later regrets situation and reports Person B for fork napping or some related crime. How would this situation play out in the legal system if Person B is apprehended? Assuming Person B could prove the trade was made willingly, I'm of the mind both Person A and Person B would be charged as (I would imagine) there would probably be laws specifically about trading forks/egos, even if they're your own. On the other hand, Person A willing traded a fork of their self. I could just as easily see the ideology of 'your ego, your choice' being prevalent, but there's also the four hour limit on alpha forks that's enforced in the inner system. I've also considered having a law that states that you cannot legally possess a fork of an ego outside of your own unless you have an ego bank license or you are the legal guardian of said ego. Would that seem reasonable for the LLA? What do you think an existing law to handle this scenario would look like?
ThatWhichNeverWas ThatWhichNeverWas's picture
Give me quantum physics any day...
First, everyone involved is a felon. Person A created an Alpha with the intent to violate the 4 hour limit, Person B knowingly took possession of restricted software. Beyond that, things become more context sensitive; A shouldn't have a leg to stand on, having willingly transferred ownership, which means relinquishing all right to the property. However, B has presumably not filed any paperwork or announced their acquisition to the local governing bodies, making them guilty of possession of an unlicensed indenture at best, fork-napping at worst. The exact nature of the result would be the disposition of the Fork - is it intact, is it in distress, does it desire extraction? Possible outcomes for A and B include being fined, subject to psychosurgical conditioning or being placed into cold storage, with B treated harsher than A. The fork would probably be either freed, deleted, or forcibly merged with A. In an extreme case, the fork may be granted A's legal status, and A deleted.
In the past we've had to compensate for weaknesses, finding quick solutions that only benefit a few. But what if we never need to feel weak or morally conflicted again?
lets adapt lets adapt's picture
This is amazingly concise!
This is amazingly concise! Thank you. This whole line of thinking makes me want a chapter or two explicitly on cases/ethical situations in the setting.
o11o1 o11o1's picture
Maybe I should give more
Maybe I should give more thought to what it means for so many of my characters to take some legal knowledge.(I tend to play AGIs as well, but a civil law defense AI could be a neat twist.
A slight smell of ions....
nerdnumber1 nerdnumber1's picture
There is actual case-law in
There is actual case-law in the LLA about this "With the landmark ruling of the Lunar-Lagrange Alliance’s Supreme Judicial Court in Shelby v. Shelby, it was deemed legal for an originating ego to negotiate and agree to an indenture that bound a fork before it was created." -Transhuman page 158 Of course this is technically indenture, not slavery, but it can be effectively slavery if both sides are okay with it being slavery (unlimited power for the indenture holder to extend the contract, indenture subject to psychosurgery, etc.). This is assuming the proper legal procedure is followed (though it doesn't necessarily have to be filed publicly). I don't see why they wouldn't do it legally since they could.