ShadowDragon8685 wrote:

SquireNed wrote:

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:

I have not read the An Ultimate's Guide to Combat by Squire Ned. In fact, I've been ignoring it because I didn't like the name, and then I continued to ignore it so as not to risk inadvertently stealing something I read in it.

Hey, I'm +Open Source. Feel free to "steal" if you want. EDIT: Some thoughts: Smart magazines exist in EP already (they half ammunition capacity, p. 342 EP), though yours are different so you may have intentionally duplicated them.

I know. I should have made that a more obvious statement that those rules were specifically overruling the default rules re: smart mags. [edit]In fact, I've fixed that in the original document, in big black and italic letters.[/edit] Basically, it annoys me that magazines are treated as being weapon modifications. They're not! They're weapon [i]plug-ins[/i], and they're technically unnecessary, in the way that the tires on your car are technically unnecessary. (Technically, you can load individual rounds into the breach as a complex reload action and fire it as a single-shot weapon. Also technically, you can drive on your rims.) So, I decided to say "fuck that noise." You want to load a 100-round beta-C mag into your rifle? Go right ahead. You want to load a Smart Mag Beta-C into your rifle? It'll cost you more, because it has a lot of complex internal jiggers and far more complex ammo-feeding system, but you an still do it. Also, unless you're okay with ejecting the round in the chamber to load the round that you want, you'll need to modify your weapon to interface with the smart mag, so it can unload the chambered round and return it to the smart mag.

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My big concern with double-barrel and multi-linked guns is that they have a sort of massive damage overkill scenario very easily; the maximum damage in vanilla EP is ~5d10+12, plus ammo bonuses (I think it caps at like 6d10+12 with ammo mods, but I might be wrong), and a quad-linked gun does, potentially, 10d10+24 [assuming no armor], which is admittedly for a machine gun, but even a pistol could wind up doing 10d10+8 damage. Hardening makes it somewhat better, but still falls victim to the huge-big double barrel rules.

My entire ethos behind this game doc is "fuck game balance, if it should work, it works." That said, dual and quad-mounted weapons are for weapon mount applications and single-shot applications [b]only[/b]. So sure, you can make yourself a pirate-style pepperbox pistol and kill a motherfucker dead with one trigger pull. You're also only gonna be able to do that once. Same with shotguns/sniper rifles. It takes balls and class to be using a break-action rifle in 2143. Also, you don't deal 10d10+24, even with a quad-barreled machine gun mount. You deal 5d10+12 and 5d10+12. There is a difference; armor (what's left after your AP, anyway) applies to each roll individually, and each roll applies Wounds separately. Same with using a double-barreled sniper rifle. You're not going to be dealing 4d10+24 damage, you'll be dealing 2d10+12 and 2d10+12.

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In AUGC, I avoid modifying vanilla weapons at all. This is a season to taste decision, so I'm not necessarily criticizing you for it, but it may make adoption into play a little more difficult if people have to change what they're used to. Another thing to consider is that most weapons in EP are stated to have no recoil. IMO this is unrealistic, but I treat it as a canon rule and only artillery (once it's in AUGC) or really shoddy improvised weapons have recoil. This has the (potentially unwanted) side effect of meaning that yes, you can just shoulder that AMR and go to town.

I've always held that the no-recoil rule means that the rheological smart systems compensate for weapon torque moving your barrel off your target. They do not magically negate Newton's Third Law of Motion! Basically, the no-recoil rule was the EP authors' way of avoiding the problem where you have, in Shadowrun, about five pages of nothing but rules regarding recoil and how it interacts with the silly ways players are going to be quad-wielding submachine guns.

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Typo: single-shot grenade pistol ss both concealable and reliable

Thanks, fixed.

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Again, season to taste, but the rifles feel a little non-punchy to me, while the beam weapons are huge-big "Oh, crap!" sources. Other than that, it looks fairly good. Well done!

The Heavy Rifles are just an intermediate step between the ammunition of Autorifles/LMGs (in canon, "Machine Guns,") and the ammunition of the Sniper Rifles (Which I reckoned are the equivalent of HMGs.) The beam weapons are all-new guns, and were made because, quite frankly, the canon beam weapons are basically "Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Plasma Rifle, and some other shit nobody ever uses besides the stunner because they [i]suuuuuuuck![/i]." So, I fixed that, and gave unto you some heavy energy weapons shamelessly stolen from [i]Mass Effect 2[/i], [i]Deus Ex: Human Revolution[/i], and [i]Dead Space[/i]. (And at the upper end, [i]Battletech[/i].) The rifles will probably still be considerably more practical, though.