Battle Suit Question

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CyborkMan CyborkMan's picture
Battle Suit Question

Do battle suits (or other exo-skeletons) get a fray roll? It appears they operate as vehicles and you wouldn't dodge if you were in a car, so it makes sense that they don't. On the other hand, it still is armor that is just rather thick. This would allow the user to dodge and weave. Do battle suits wearers roll for fray?

DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
I think that if you are

I think that if you are wearing an exosuit, then you treat them as normal armor. Exosuits might give bonuses to strength, and increase your speed, but they shouldn't change things.

The rules don't cover how to handle exosuits being hacked and controlled remotely when someone is in one. Either way, it might be a good idea to turn off hackable comm systems of the exosuit when you are wearing it. Only use systems that is keeping track of your physical movements and augmenting them.

The new Transhuman book does cover new rules for Jamming and Remote control. You might want to check it out if you care about that stuff.

Decivre Decivre's picture
CyborkMan wrote:Do battle

CyborkMan wrote:
Do battle suits (or other exo-skeletons) get a fray roll? It appears they operate as vehicles and you wouldn't dodge if you were in a car, so it makes sense that they don't. On the other hand, it still is armor that is just rather thick. This would allow the user to dodge and weave. Do battle suits wearers roll for fray?

Yes they do. Only when you are remote-controlling the suit is it treated as a vehicle by the rules. Otherwise, you roll as though the suit is the character's body.

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CyborkMan CyborkMan's picture
I guess an add on to my above

I guess an add on to my above question is how big are battlesuits? We've been assuming they are just the Spartan armor from the Halo universe in terms of size. Are they more bulky like the marines from Starcraft or are they true exoskeletons that are rather large such as the exosuit wearing soldiers from Avatar? I feel like this would affect the ability to dodge as well as use cover.

CodeBreaker CodeBreaker's picture
I have been operating under

I have been operating under the assumption that they are Spartan style armour. There are probably models that more closely resemble the SC2 marine, but they aren't the norm.

The Avatar exosuits are better handled as the Hyperdense Exoskeleton.

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Xagroth Xagroth's picture
I'd say that military ones

I'd say that military ones would be like Starcraft marine armor in regards of size, but without the "pilot" being bolted inside (nanotechnology allows for very strong molecular bonding kinda like velcro), but that civil ones would vary from that size to the ones in Avatar, since for construction purposes you want more mass and stability. So yeah, you can find both and everything inbetween in a battlefield, since desperate times make people use tools as weapons.
And of course, there are combat engineers. Nowadays some soldiers have to "modify" the battlefield to allow for the critical part in an army's battleplan (mobility), and while in EP there are war machines less vulnerable to the obstacles in the ground, I doubt all armed units use Fenrir and Reapers; on the contrary, a lot would use regular vehicles with armor and attached weapons, since they are faster to ready and redeploy, and cheaper (in terms of time and materials). Not to mention infantry is much more important than cavalry in a setting when that same infantry carries lots of firepower and doesn't loss a lot in survivavility compared with other units as it does nowadays (hint: to take down a tank, the cheapest option today is a soldier with an RPG hitting the tank's ass. in EP I can see drones doing that... or even kamikaze ones). And I always found it's better to have tons of weak units than a handful of very strong ones, since the individual loss is not as noticeable in the first case, and you can always concentrate fire (specially with a tacnet...).