Backup Question.

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LordNephets LordNephets's picture
Backup Question.

This happened in a recent game, and I am not sure how this situation is supposed to go down.

If a character dies, and has a backup created, does this deactivate the owners original cortical stack?

In our game, a character died, was restored from a backup, and then spent some time to search for and find his original morph and cortical stack, then retrieved it and sleeved it into another morph, essentially cloning himself.

Is this legal? Is he able to control both characters, and do they have a joint consciousness?

It also brings up the philosophical question, when you re-sleeve, are you really the same person, or are you another being with the exact same brain (disproving practical immortality)?

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NewtonPulsifer NewtonPulsifer's picture
They're near identical copies

They're near identical copies of each other, but no, they don't have a joint consciousness. Either the player can control both or the GM can step in if/as necessary.

If this is a Planetary Consortium jurisdiction, then the player's character committed a crime by instancing the stack.

You.don't.ever.instance.an.alpha.fork.ever.

A good citizen is supposed to either merge the copy on the stack or extract the "extra" memories with a psychosurgeon.

P.S. The alpha fork re-instanced from backup is the "legal" alpha fork....but by re-instancing another alpha fork how are we supposed to know which is which? Very messy.

P.P.S. If the re-instanced backup had discovered the other alpha fork alive (not just a corpse with a stack) then things would be legally more murky. This is fairly clear cut, though.

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Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
great sources for adventures hooks, tho

Just look at what Feyin had to go through, in the recent episodes of Know Evil!

anyway, what stops one to instanciate a fork from a stack say, on Titan or Extropia, while his backup is instanciated on Mars?
the PC might not be the wiser for a while if the A-Fork playq it smart

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OneTrikPony OneTrikPony's picture
LordNephets wrote:This

LordNephets wrote:
This happened in a recent game, and I am not sure how this situation is supposed to go down.

If a character dies, and has a backup created, does this deactivate the owners original cortical stack?

In our game, a character died, was restored from a backup, and then spent some time to search for and find his original morph and cortical stack, then retrieved it and sleeved it into another morph, essentially cloning himself.

Is this legal? Is he able to control both characters, and do they have a joint consciousness?

It also brings up the philosophical question, when you re-sleeve, are you really the same person, or are you another being with the exact same brain (disproving practical immortality)?

One question; are you saying that one of the character's instances was from a backup copy and the other was re-instantiated from the character's original cortical stack?

Or are you saying that the character was re-instantiated from a backup and then found his body and made a copy of his current self to sleeve into the original body.

There might be some issues here. Stess for one thing. The backup version will have to resist SV for being instanced from a backup. If the other version of the character was instanced from the stack that character will remember dying and also have to resist stress.

Time is another problem. There will be a subjective time difference between a backup copy and a cortical stack copy. The Backup version will have no memories of his life between the time the charcacter was backed up and the time the character died. The Stack version will have no memories of the character's actions between the time the character died and the time the character found the new morph.

Point is; if you're a backup version and you find your old stack it's probably best to just leave it alone.

The other point is; a backup and a stack version of the same character are probably two different people. If the subjective time difference between the two versions of the character is more than 1 week, the two versions probably could not be merged effectively (see p 275) As a GM I'd be skeptical that these two characters could be role played effectively by one player and ask the player to pick one.

Mea Culpa: My mode of speech can make others feel uninvited to argue or participate. This is the EXACT opposite of what I intend when I post.