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NiallNai NiallNai's picture
Any product updates?
I know Catalyst is predicting Sunward and the GM Screen as being Q1 products. I was wondering what the status is for them? Have they gone to print? In layout? On the long boat trip to the US?
Thantrax Thantrax's picture
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Seconded. I'm interested in Sunward in particular, though I am still undecided on the GM Screen. I want to know when to have the free cash to make the purchase.
Iv Iv's picture
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GM screen !
Aleksander Aleksander's picture
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Are there any chances that Sunward will be published in the first quarter? And will the PDF be released before the hardcover version, or at the same date?
NiallNai NiallNai's picture
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I tweeted Eclipse Phase today and they said: "EP GM Screen is uploading to the printer now in fact. Sunward is still in layout."
The Doctor The Doctor's picture
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I read that the GM screen will come bundled with an adventure.. will it be the same one that was a part of the quickstart ruleset, or a new adventure?
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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It's an entirely new adventure, 24 pages in length.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

Kjetilkverndokken Kjetilkverndokken's picture
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So is the Sunward book still up for the first quarter?

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RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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It's still in layout, so I can't say for certain. My guess at this point is that it could make the very end of the quarter, or it may slip and hit the next month. In the near future I should be posting some art previews for it though.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

Kjetilkverndokken Kjetilkverndokken's picture
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RobBoyle wrote:
It's still in layout, so I can't say for certain. My guess at this point is that it could make the very end of the quarter, or it may slip and hit the next month. In the near future I should be posting some art previews for it though.
Will the pdf be released when the layout is finished or at the same time as the physical book? Anyway, its not to far off anyway :).

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Abhoth Abhoth's picture
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I am interested in several catalyst lines and atm they are releasing nothing atm from what I can tell, Cthulutech, Leviathen, shadowrun are all on "hold" due to a unknown reason, can you tell us if this is going to effect Eclipse Phase?
Noirfatale Noirfatale's picture
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actually its quite simple - like all publishers these days they get their book printed where its the cheapest - usually somewere in asia - and they try to get the best bulk price witch meens packing as many book they can. you can notice that when a catalyst book gets released its not alone - sometimes a book is printed but they will wait until several books are ready to be shipped from the printer in asia to their wareouse to save on the boat shipping and cost. they get better bulk price, they make more profit and they can make more books. so last october you had books from almost every line comming at once - they were probably shipped in the same boat. making a book of the quality Catalist does requires a lot more work than you may think and despite all that there will be mistake, misprint and stuff that slips through the cracks like books falling appart. its the way it is because RPG is a low-profit buisness and you need to keep your budget very thight to stay afloat. then you get the distributors who dont give a dam about RPG and customer because they dont deal with us, they deal with retailers who struggle to stay in buisness. They make shure everybody pays exept them - like forcing a retailer to buy 36 books before they take the order in consideration. I got a lot of respect for compagny like Catalyst who still manage to go strong despite how bad the whole RPG buisness goes these days. we can only wait and see. but rest assured that you will see alot of books right before Whatever CON - Gen-Con ect... whats the next big Con on the calendar?
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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Kjetilkverndokken wrote:
Will the pdf be released when the layout is finished or at the same time as the physical book?
The PDF will be released before the print book is out.
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I am interested in several catalyst lines and atm they are releasing nothing atm from what I can tell, Cthulutech, Leviathen, shadowrun are all on "hold" due to a unknown reason, can you tell us if this is going to effect Eclipse Phase?
Um, the Catalyst release schedule has occasional hiccups and delays, but it is not "on hold." The street date for Vice, the next SR book, is the 23rd, for example. All of the game lines are in production, as normal. The EP GM Screen is at the printer and the 2nd printing of the core book will be headed there soon as well.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

Abhoth Abhoth's picture
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RobBoyle wrote:
Kjetilkverndokken wrote:
Will the pdf be released when the layout is finished or at the same time as the physical book?
The PDF will be released before the print book is out.
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I am interested in several catalyst lines and atm they are releasing nothing atm from what I can tell, Cthulutech, Leviathen, shadowrun are all on "hold" due to a unknown reason, can you tell us if this is going to effect Eclipse Phase?
Um, the Catalyst release schedule has occasional hiccups and delays, but it is not "on hold." The street date for Vice, the next SR book, is the 23rd, for example. All of the game lines are in production, as normal. The EP GM Screen is at the printer and the 2nd printing of the core book will be headed there soon as well.
With respect sir I concur with you in regards to Shadow Run, but Cthulhutech has had several finished books since late last year and the are very very late with some of their books, have a look at the CTech forums. I however was told the delay with cthulhutech applied more broadly then it apparently does. I was a concerned primalry due to the lack of release dates the cthulutech people could say and the fact they cant even say the reason for it, here is a link to that post http://cthulhutech.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=2219, despite their statements saying everything was ok I was just a little concenred the other foot was going to drop (again NO evidence for this just me been a worry wart). I guess the reason I react like this is I was a big eden studios fan and there decline had basically started the same way (again im refering to cthulhutech here, as you pointed out Catalyst has "irons" in fire so to speak).
Thantrax Thantrax's picture
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Can you tell us if Extropia will feature in Sunward? It's just on the border there so I could see it being there and I could see it being excluded. I'm picking up the book either way. If Extropia isn't there though, I'd love to see if I can goad the community here into making it into an open source project of our own and turn it into a developed setting. If Extropia is in Sunward, I imagine we'll all want to take a look at what you've got instead.
eMouse eMouse's picture
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Welcome to RPG publishing, where delays are a way of life!
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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I can't really say one way or the other with regards to Cthulhutech -- Wildfire handles all of their production in-house, separate from Catalyst. Catalyst basically just takes it to press and handles it from there on. So their production activity is in a completely different loop that I am not part of. As to Extropia -- no, Sunward only covers out to Mars. The Belt and outward will be covered in a Rimward book that is next on the schedule for us to start working on.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

The Doctor The Doctor's picture
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eMouse wrote:
Welcome to RPG publishing, where delays are a way of life!
Like software development, in some ways.
twilsemail twilsemail's picture
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Is there any news on Sunward? We're rapidly approaching the end of Q1 and I've neither seen nor heard any word of a solid release date. I may just have missed it somewhere. Thanks, twilsemail
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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Sunward is currently just off to proofreading. It'll be a few weeks for the proofreading, and we're still waiting on some of the art. At this point, it seems likely that it will go to print in April. We don't have any hard street release dates yet, though, and we are unlikely to have them for a while.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

Jimson Jimson's picture
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Ok, I'm probably really jumping the gun here, but I thought I read something about a second printing of EP, which included the errata. I haven't bought the core book yet, so I'm just curious if I should wait for the 2nd printing, or buy the current core book in the next few months.
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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There is a second printing currently at the printer, and it does include the errata (which you can find on the Resources page). The current version of the PDF also includes the errata. Note that it's at an overseas printer, so there is still some time (over a month, quite possibly longer) before the second printing (or the GM Screen, also at the printer) will be available in stores.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

Jimson Jimson's picture
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Thanks for the info Rob. I really appreciate it.
eMouse eMouse's picture
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Well, I guess we got an explanation tonight about recent delays of print versions. Hopefully it'll all get sorted out as cleanly as possible so CGL can get back to making (and printing) games. http://catalystgamelabs.com/2010/03/17/catalyst-game-labs-press-release/
Morningkill Morningkill's picture
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I just sold my first printing EP Book so that I can buy the second printing... I hope it was not a mistake...
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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One way or another, the EP second printing and GM Screen will still be coming out. Posthuman has no intention of letting EP stop. There may be some delays, but we're pushing to keep things moving as much as possible.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

Extrasolar Angel Extrasolar Angel's picture
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What about Sunward-will it get published ?
[I]Raise your hands to the sky and break the chains. With transhumanism we can smash the matriarchy together.[/i]
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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Extrasolar Angel wrote:
What about Sunward-will it get published ?
Yep! We were actually going over some of the final artwork earlier today, and proofread comments are rolling in.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

AJCarrington AJCarrington's picture
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Not to ask the obvious, but any idea as to when we might expect to see it available in print/download? Thanks, AJC
nick012000 nick012000's picture
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Will Sunward be Creative Commons like the corebook is, or will you be doing something similar to what WotC did with d20 by releasing the core rules for open use while still keeping the expansions proprietary?

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RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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Given the current situation between Posthuman and CGL, it's hard to say when it will get released. It will be ready to go to print by the end of April, but when exactly it will go to the printers depends on many factors. We're really hoping to get it out before GenCon though. Sunward and all other EP books will be CC-licensed, just like the core rulebook.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

Abschalten Abschalten's picture
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I just want to say I'm very much looking forward to Sunward. In a single release Eclipse Phase has become my favorite new (and even new favorite!) RPG, even surpassing SR4 (and that's saying a bunch.) I have about three groups of people chomping at the bit for me to GM sessions for them, and when the 2nd printing of EP gets to my FLGS I will buy it and give my old 1st printing to my brother-in-law. :) In summary, Sunward can't come out fast enough. Keep up the good work.
Sepherim Sepherim's picture
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Same here Abschalten. I've been following and loving SR for a long, long time... but it has suddenly become the second in the preference list. I'm waiting eagerly for the reprinting, so I can get my hands on it.
Extrasolar Angel Extrasolar Angel's picture
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And same here. One of the most impressive works I had seen.
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Jimson Jimson's picture
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I know you post updates when you have them, but I thought I'd see how things are going at Posthuman Studios these days.
RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
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Actually we just received some good news today in terms of finalizing a deal with Catalyst over the core book reprints and GM Packs, so we will be moving ahead soon to sticker them and get them into distribution. Once we have concrete street dates, we'll post them on the blog.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
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Things are awesome. I did a bunch of learning while getting Lack available in a few different ebook formats, we're working on Sunward, we're working on our first PDF only release, and business back-end stuff continues to move forward with the core book reprint and the GM Screen. Edit: Damnit, sniped by Rob again! Well, to say something that he didn't say -- it's been really rainy here lately, and that sucks because I can't go work on my porch.
Jimson Jimson's picture
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Learning is always good, as are porches/decks! Wish it was more rainy here. Where are located Adam? Thanks for the update guys. Glad to hear things are moving along in the right direction. Can't wait to get my hands on a physical book.
GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
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I wish i could work from the porch :(
nick012000 nick012000's picture
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Any news on Sunward and Gatecrashing? They're supposed to be Q1 and Q2 products, respectively, but we're well into June now, so Q2 will soon be over.

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AdamJury AdamJury's picture
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Those dates are, obviously, effected by us no longer publishing through Catalyst. We continue to work on both books.
AdamJury AdamJury's picture
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Here's the latest update on the shipping of the core rulebook reprint: http://www.eclipsephase.com/eclipse-phase-reprint-shipping