Elephants

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luxaster luxaster's picture
Elephants

So I've been doing a reading of all the EP books and I noticed something odd.

In several sections on uplifts its stated that there were elephant uplifts but that they didn't make it through the Fall... but then in Sunward the Lunar city of Shackle has a herd of Indian elephants (they even show up in the picture!).

So presumably there are elephants in the solar system, its just that all the uplifted ones are dead/stuck on Earth? If so, I'm imaging an idea where radical mercurials decide to liberate the Shackle herd and transport them to the rim to be cared for by their fellow non-humans.

GenehackedGynoid GenehackedGynoid's picture
Nice catch.

Nice catch. I didn't ever even really look into this too closely, but you have a good point.

The obvious rationale for elephant uplifts not surviving is that they may have been more expensive to physically ship up into space than neo-avians and the like; but even allowing that, neo-whales survived. I'm not really sure why someone couldn't duplicate the uplift process on surviving elephants, too.

Chernoborg Chernoborg's picture
Reminds me of a story I was

Reminds me of a story I was toying with.
The mission is to enter New Mumbai and neutralize the Async sensed within. The Team would eventually find out it's an elephant uplifts insane Alpha fork inhabiting a cobbled together "elephant man" biomorph. The bright side was discovering the original corpse still has it's stack!

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Darth Fanboy Darth Fanboy's picture
I'm reasonably sure it's the

I'm reasonably sure it's the elephant uplifts that are completely extinct, which makes sense if you're dealing with a recent development that's solely on Earth. A lot of the uplift lines/species were developed in the outer system, but elephants are big land-dwelling air-breathing beasties.

Elephants generally may have gone extinct, but if you can grow one of the bigger biomorphs you can grow a baby elephant, if someone took the time and effort to sequence them propperly. Given how close some varieties are to excinction in the wild even now, I'd be surprised if nobody did that.

(On plot thoughts I had a character half-built for an abandoned fic who was the last of the mercenary commanders at the Kilamanjaro elevator during the fall, and whose increasingly brutal attempts to control the exodus included being the one to render the line extinct. How many viable human beings can you get to the orbital stations instead of these lab experiments, or more to the point how much life support equipment or consumables for the bastards already suffucating in tin cans?)

CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
luxaster wrote:

luxaster wrote:

So presumably there are elephants in the solar system, its just that all the uplifted ones are dead/stuck on Earth? If so, I'm imaging an idea where radical mercurials decide to liberate the Shackle herd and transport them to the rim to be cared for by their fellow non-humans.

Mercurials don't care about animals more than other transhumans. Why would they? What you propose would only mean transporting the elephants from one zoo to another.

You could recreate elephant uplifting, but not on existing animals. Why even bother.
The elephants are big and resource intensive.

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