Eclipse Phase Second Edition Release Update

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Eclipse Phase Second Edition Release Update

We passed this news onto our backers on Kickstarter several weeks ago, and to keep the public in the loop: Eclipse Phase Second Edition is late, and will be released in 2018.

Response to the playtest has been spirited, and we're still working our way through rules issues and rewrites. An update to the playtest package was made available on November 16th, and more material is forthcoming. All of the book's art is in. We're tweaking and expanding the graphic design. And we're pushing forward with Kickstarter stretch goals and other Eclipse Phase projects.

Eclipse Phase Second Edition Delays

Our schedule for Eclipse Phase Second Edition was aggressive, and it got waylaid by several factors, some unexpected, and some just hit us harder than expected. Our long-term fans know that we've always operated on a slow-and-steady pace leading to high-quality books, and we will continue that in finishing Eclipse Phase Second Edition.

Our most notably delay involves hiring a freelancer to handle art direction, a hire which did not pan out and put us several months behind in art. Rather than attempt to hire someone else for that position, we picked up the pieces and handled it in-house, diverting attention from other aspects of the book. All of the book's artwork is now in hand and looks great, from a mix of established Eclipse Phase artists and some great new ones!

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Playtest Update

On November 16th we pushed out an update to the Open Playtest: revised Game Mechanics and Creating Character chapters. If you've already grabbed the playtest on DriveThruRPG, those files are available to you now. If not, you can download them here! As always, you can discuss the Open Playtest on our forums.

We're currently working on the Mesh and Accelerated Future chapters, and taking into account feedback on both the Psi and the Action and Combat chapters.

Updated Release Dates

At this point, we are aiming to release the Eclipse Phase Second Edition PDF to backers in early 2018, with the print edition following by April.

We understand that this is a significant delay from our original estimate. When it became obvious that the core book was behind schedule, we re-evaluated the entire release schedule for the Eclipse Phase Second Edition line. We still have an aggressive schedule that we are pushing forward with, including the core rulebook, all the stretch goals from this Kickstarter project, and titles that have yet to be announced or that aren't associated with the Kickstarter.

It is important that our schedule keep moving forward on these projects, even if it means 100% of our attention isn't devoted to the Eclipse Phase Second Edition core rulebook, as the long-term success of the game line relies on support books following soon after the core rulebook.

O'Neill Cylinder by Lorenz RuwweO'Neill Cylinder by Lorenz Ruwwe

BackerKit and Pre-Orders

We still intend to allow pre-orders of Eclipse Phase Second Edition via BackerKit. However, that functionality will not open up until closer to the release date.

Quick-Start Rules

The EP2 Quick-Start Rules with a new adventure, Acrimony, are available to download for free!

CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
I feel that quality trumps

I feel that quality trumps speed of delivery in case of RPG games. And to be frank the thing I care about the most in EP2 case is mechanics. These cannot be thrown together hastily. And "aggressive" schedule with release date in 2017 sounded exactly like that. So i'm actually relieved that you pushed back the release.

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Wyvernjack Wyvernjack's picture
"At this point, we are aiming

"At this point, we are aiming to release the Eclipse Phase Second Edition PDF to backers in early 2018, with the print edition following by April."

Does that mean that non-backers have to wait until print, or can people buy the PDF once that's out?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
The electronic version will

The electronic version will be released before the print version. Backers will get the electronic version in advance of it going on sale to the general public. Pre-orders will be available via BackerKit closer to the release date. Exact timeline TBD.

Wyvernjack Wyvernjack's picture
Can we send bribes, such as

Can we send bribes, such as candy to help speed up the timeline?

o11o1 o11o1's picture
It's done when it's done.

It's done when it's done. Rushing the product won't make it better.

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Ael Wyn Ael Wyn's picture
Still taking playtest feedback?

Are you still taking playtest feedback?

If so, what kind of feedback would be most useful?
Major rule changes
Minor rule changes
Reorganization of rules without changing them
Minor rewrites for clarity
Typos

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Ael Wyn wrote:Are you still

Ael Wyn wrote:
Are you still taking playtest feedback?

Yes, we just added a new chapter to the playtest today: The Mesh!

[quote/]If so, what kind of feedback would be most useful?

In order of usefulness, most to least:

Minor rule changes
Reorganization of rules without changing them
Minor rewrites for clarity
Major rule changes (Unless something is outright broken ... major rules changes at this point require a lot of work.)
Typos

Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
is there another playtest after the Mesh?

Is the Mesh the last playtest? And can we hope to see the alpha 3.2...err I mean the PDF for EP2 around late june, if that's the case?

(yup, that was a Star Citizen reference there, also set to be released in alpha version 3.2 in late june)

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Xagroth Xagroth's picture
I think The Mesh is, indeed,

I think The Mesh is, indeed, the last playtest document (remember whatever has not been upgraded uses 1st ed rules).

I'm a little more interested in Harebrained's Battletech this month than in Star Citizen, though ;)

Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
Mesh illustration

I was wondering if we'll get some visual for Mesh topography (and, no, I don't mean LOD, normals or UV mapping!), like how the Mesh is structured on Estropia, Titan or the Carnival of Goat.

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Jojirius Jojirius's picture
Projections

As we approach the end of April, do the projections for the PDF and print remain the same? Or are they sitting at around June now?

Clean Shine Clean Shine's picture
Eclipse Phase Second Edition Release Update

The main version of Eclipse Phase won various honors (2010 Origins Award for Best RPG, 2010 ENnie Gold for Best Writing, and 2010 ENnie Silvers for Best Cover Art and Product of the Year) and was widely praised for the advancement and profundity of its setting. The Eclipse Phase line is perceived for its inventiveness, world-building, astounding work of art, and high generation models.
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H4rl3q1n H4rl3q1n's picture
Hey ,

Hey ,
me and my group wanted to start playing Eclipse Phase and we were wondering when the release of the 2nd edition would be, since from what I have read, it should have been last year and there is no date to be found.

greets

nezumi.hebereke nezumi.hebereke's picture
Hey H4rl3y, I would say the

Hey H4rl3y, I would say the answer is 'soon'. They're very active and still assembling it. GenCon is next month and that's a big timeline I'm sure they'll be gunning for. If you're debating between buying 1st edition or 2nd, I'd say hold onto your money.

That said, 2nd edition is not radically different from 1st. If you want to run a game tonight, you can pick up the quick-start rules: http://www.eclipsephase.com/qsr

Or run the 1st edition book, which you can also score for free under creative commons.

Xagroth Xagroth's picture
H4rl3q1n wrote:Hey ,

H4rl3q1n wrote:
Hey ,
me and my group wanted to start playing Eclipse Phase and we were wondering when the release of the 2nd edition would be, since from what I have read, it should have been last year and there is no date to be found.

greets

You will need the first edition books anyway, since the fluff will be unchanged (I assume it will be expanded, or duplicated, in 2nd ed). Fortunately, as it has just been mentioned, you can download the 1st ed books for free from the author's blog in wordpress, legally since it has been released from the beginning as Creative Commons.

H4rl3q1n H4rl3q1n's picture
first, thx for the answers :)

first, thx for the answers :)
Yes I am already reading the 1st edition stuff for fluff :) Its just, that with new players, they might be a bit reluctant if I give them rules from the 1st edition to learn and then 2 months later give them new rules again :D
Was just wondering if the release was "right around the corner" or "still in the stars" . But I guess I wait until Gen Con is over. Maybe there will be some announcement there.

stalfos stalfos's picture
I check the kickstarter

I check the kickstarter comments every once in awhile for updates.
:)
Two days ago, Adam posted this:

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Thanks for your patience, everyone! We'll have a pre-Gen Con schedule update before the end of July.